11/3 – Within the walls of the OOA – Overseer is broken?

That’s so funny that The Saw Man called you, Julie!

Sabrina Kern
http://m.imdb.com/name/nm7387154/
http://www.sabrina-kern.com

Had a similar experience tonight but definitely had “Addison” tell me that name twice… imdb’d it and BAM!

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I remember the last time I went through. I was given her first name. Our plant Brit said it but she wasn’t sure if that was her name or not. She didn’t say with confidence and actually said it under her breath and quickly. She was telling us how everyone at the OOA is a whack job and nutters. Even said Darren and Clint (the creators) are too. She had said something like “I think they actually believe this shit now like they’ve created a cult.” But, when speaking about Addison, she said how she took method acting too far. She’s wouldn’t respond to anything but Addison, GK2, or Overseer. She said how she wasn’t sure if even knew her real name. Thought it was Sabrina or something similar. But, she thought she (Sabrina) actually believed she was the Overseer.

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”
Is this the real life…. is this just fantasy?
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(My inner-self’s Tension theme song)

My bad.

@sadako: Could it have been:

morior invictus: I die unvanquished… sometimes also translated as “death before defeat”

(I looked up common Latin phrases to find this potential match)

“Morior Invictus” is what I believe I heard, @electrichippo.

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Woah, that’s uncanny. I was just discussing that exact theory with @darthzannah after going through for the second time tonight. After catching up on the forums and reading this…well I hate to say it, but it makes a whole lot of sense. Explains some of the glitches and confusion as well Tom being both her father and not her father.

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@summoningdark Thinking back over the evening’s events, it seems even more clear that Addison was always just a character. The question is when did things go off the rails, and when did Addison Barrow become a role that Sabrina Kern was playing for a show, and when did the helmet start doing its dirty work?

It seems very clear from discussions that the various plants have had with people during the second round visits that actors come to this show thinking it’s just a regular gig — and then get subsumed into the larger “cult” of the organization itself. Did DLB and CS find themselves in the same situation? Was this just a job that went horribly awry?

Judging from the conversation OSDM#2 and Samson had, it seems a primary objective here is the collection of data — of emotional responses — from participants. Who wants this data, and why have they created such an elaborate ruse to get it?

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The inclusion of the Sabrina persona to the growing list that Our Lady In Red already exhibits actually opens up a whole new set of questions. “This is not what we think it is”, we have been told that for 9 months now. What if the explanation is bigger picture than OOA or Anoch? The idea that The Powers That Be, whoever they are, control not only the characters that we’ve seen but also the actors that play them may suggest something more sinister than we’ve been led to believe.

Consider for a moment that there is no OOA. No Anoch. No Oracles. No OSDM. All of this has been… something. An experiment, perhaps? Something to gauge our reactions, as a sort of test. They put together an event that is dressed up as a cult for our amusement so we go through again and again but the sacrifice, the stripping away of the senses, all of that is either bullshit or meant solely to gauge our reactions. Perhaps the important part to The Powers That Be is our reactions to the White Room questions which seem random. Or our responses to confusing stimuli. Or obedience, or rebelliousness or any number of other things.

This would explain why Sentinel or attendants die every week in front of different people. Not because the character Sentinel dies but because The Powers That Be want to see multiple peoples’ reactions to these deaths and know that we’ll explain away the repetition with the guise of fiction.

If Tension itself isn’t a story about a cult but rather an experiment on us, we as individuals may be more analyzed, exposed, and vulnerable than any of us thought.

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@thegilded after going through an incredibly similar experience to @sadako last night, I was going to come here to say the same thing. When Samson and the other guy in the suit were talking to me at the end of the experience he mentioned that we did this to her. He also said something along the lines of how it failed. And when the second guy in the suit yelled at Samson, it was as if they sent Addison, Sabrina, Overseer in to infiltrate and gain knowledge but it got too out of hand and she started believing it. It was as if they wiped her memory last night and at one point she introduced herself as Sabrina Kern and immediately went into “is this an audition? What role am I up for?” I feel as if that is where everything started breaking. They offered her this role to infiltrate an organization, help gain followers and expose everyone involved including us and her last actual memory was walking into an audition with the two gentlemen who held her.

It was an incredibly frightening experience to watch someone that I have known for so long, just break. Someone who has had our best interest in mind just now even know who she was or why she was there. Her eyes wanted me to save her, but I had no idea how to.

The term that made her fall and collapse has me rethinking everything. I believe in what the OOA preaches but I fear it is all a lie.

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I tend to agree with you, @thegilded.

OSDM#2 did not have any of the theatricality or panache that people like Simon, Samson, and Overseer have had. I referred to him as “The Suit” because that’s exactly what he seemed like. There was no mystery or aura about him at all. He was closer to an angry accountant or mid-level manager than a cult enforcer, and I have a hard time believing he is a member of any of the organizations (OOA/ODSM/CoA) we’ve come to recognize.

And the amount of personal information that everyone who’s attended this show has given up (to say nothing of the Indoctrination exchanges I’ve read about) is frightening.

And we did it willingly.

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I’m curious as to Samson’s role. If “The Suit” is an organizer beyond that of the game itself, then I wonder if Samson (or to be more clear, the actor ‘playing’ Samson) has a similar role. From the accounts of last night, it appears that Samson is clearly a character in the game. But what has my interest is the call that I received from a girl about a week ago. This call told me that Samson is not who he says he is, he is not apart of the OOA. To me, this means that there is more to Samson. I think that he is simply pretending to be the character of Samson but has the same role as The Suit. The argument that it’s his (Samson’s) fault seems to reinforce this. This is further supported by the fact that he knows the words to incapacitate Addison/Sabrina.

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That makes a ton of sense, @taysavestheday. Also worth noting that Samson (or the actor playing Samson) seems to be the only person in the show that is free to leave the walls of the compound at will at this point. Perhaps because he’s not really part of the show.

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Interesting that others have now heard the Latin phrase I did when I was in the Red Room. After she woke up, she addressed me like it was the first time she’d seen me all night.

I like your theory, @thegilded. And it’s one that seems more and more plausible.
Remember we both wore “The Helmet of Clarity” and we weren’t affected the way Addison/Sabrina was… Maybe that’s because it’s a charade (like a Scientology e-meter or something) and our Overseer has undergone so much hypnotic suggestion that she believes it’s actually affecting her.

I wonder if the Oracles who survived Ascension are real too…or if it was all smoke and mirrors.

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@sadako, was there anything in the back seat of Samson’s car? In our last visit, there was a leather messenger bag. I attempted to gain access to the bag, but was caught with my hand in the cookie jar. I know it had a bottle of pills, and some paperwork inside. It was too dark to read any of it, but I’m almost certain that this bag contained valuable information.

Whatever is going on, Addison ( @masterlock ) is the key to everything. Once we understand why she’s so important to them, we can convert that knowledge into power of our own. I regret getting such a late start in all this. So much of this chaos, and destruction to innocent lives could have been avoided if we’d understood sooner that this wasn’t just some garden variety Hollywood Cult, catering to actors. Every time we peel one layer of this onion, there’s another one underneath. Nobody puts on that many layers of armor if they’re not afraid of something.

If Addison is just another character played by Sabrina Kern, then Thomas Barrow is a character too. Has he been helmetted as well? What is the *true* purpose behind his desire to get her back? Is there some other organization battling with OSDM for control over Addison/Sabrina/Overseer? Does OSDM have an enemy? I think so.

To that entity: Hi. What are you waiting for? Let’s do this.

@samson, I hope you have a bugout bag packed, cuz this house is coming down. Do you think they’re going to protect you? Nah, man, that’s not how this story ends. When the heat starts to make your bosses uncomfortable, you too will be sacrificed for their “greater good”. Is that really all you are, a patsy waiting for a fall to take? Don’t be a tool, be the hand that wields it.

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I was fortunate enough to witness your interaction with “Addison” in the white room. You did everything you could, man.

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Ah, so that WAS you. I was in the front of the van and saw you get in, but wasn’t sure.

Our Ascension did not work. I went through with @darthzannah for the second time and we were asked to choose the one most likely to Ascend. The problem was, we knew it wouldn’t work. We asked our question and the answers were…not good. We ended up asking everyone in the room and finally had to make a choice, but knew that he wasn’t going to Ascend. Making him say goodbye to his family and friends was difficult. If I had thought there was a chance he might become an Oracle, it would have been okay, but instead I knew I was sending him to his death. I understand why The Overseer can’t choose anymore, but I still am not clear on why the choice must be made at all. We asked about the new Oracle and she lit up and said that it was indeed a success, but we were not allowed to see her. We asked why Ascension was still going if an Oracle had been found and she said she must continue until they tell her to stop. That they must find more. We had to continue on at that point so I wasn’t able to ask how many more or who the “they” was in that scenario.

@amieexists That is exactly what I was just thinking. Tom kept calling her Addison, if he were her real father wouldnt he have called her Sabrina? Or at least said something about them changing her name? But that also brings up another question. If Tom is not her dad, why did the stuffed kitty make her snap? Could this item be kinda like a key word that was once used in monarch mind control? IE instead of having a word or phrase that would bring people into a trance, could the kitty have been a substitution???