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August 17, 2016 at 2:23 pm #18628
@electrichippo – Honest question here. Why does BoS want to expose these people? In my mind, exposing who is behind it will give the OOA even more exposure and have more people get involved. I mean, if I wasn’t a part of this and I heard that an event was going on that involved all of these horror writers/directors/etc, I’d join up in a second. This seems to go against the whole point of the end goal of BoS (unless they plan on taking over Ascension :P)
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August 17, 2016 at 1:53 pm #18614
Now we know why it took so long…BoS had to change the video. The original video had all of the faces/photos on one screen. Makes sense so they could take screenshots of each face to give us something to research better. Also, this isn’t a criticism, so calm down.
So if we’re not BoS, we get called accomplices to crime, enablers, liars, and murderers? It must be nice to be able to throw stones in that glass house of theirs.
Also, was the “higher up” OOA member supposed to be III? Or is it someone else? I know BoS can’t answer that, so I said that more for theorizing. Clockmakers? TheCreator? Ellis himself?
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August 17, 2016 at 8:03 pm #18661
Are you sure? I didn’t think Sentinel became friends with non BoS members. Whether this is a mistake, overlooked, or whatever, this is still proof that Buz was considered BoS at one point, even by your leader.
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August 17, 2016 at 7:55 pm #18658
And yet he still made it through and became one of you. Sounds like there needs to be a better vetting process in place
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August 17, 2016 at 7:50 pm #18656
The “evil” part was something @111error specifically pointed out for our specific conversation topic. He’s not pointing out the things I’ve said about Two and the OOA in other podcasts and the reason I became a rogue soldier in this war.
Also, let’s not forget that when @thebuz murdered III, he was still BoS. He went to that meeting representing the BoS. What happened after with him and the BoS disavowing him and his actions does not change that.
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August 17, 2016 at 7:37 pm #18654
@electrichippo – I’m confused. If you’re not after the “fall guys”, why are you exposing them?
or am I reading that part of the diary wrong? I’m assuming the Hollywood people are the ones in the video and NOT the real creators?
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August 17, 2016 at 7:35 pm #18653
@111error – I did say that. Like I said, we each believe what we want. I refer to them as “evil” because I have not seen them do anything good in my opinion. Hijacking a car with my co-host and others, disrupting a get together that BoS members were invited to, etc. The fact that BoS got invited to Scare LA, to me, shows some class on the OOA’s part. Like, we know you don’t like us, but come have fun with us. We don’t care which “side” you’re on. To my knowledge, Sentinel has never asked any of the OOA or it’s members to be a part of anything they’ve done. Of course, to those “fighting for the cause”, will not see these as evil at all. It’s just the way we look at things.
Re: Tom, I made a joke about how he always seems to find out where the parties are at. He’s a party crasher. If he’s that good at finding invite only parties, then he has to be able to find where the OOA headquarters are. Obviously my opinion though. Maybe there’s more to Tom showing up. Maybe he’s supposed to play on our sympathies for a reason. Maybe he’s someone who got hired to test us and see how we think. That could make sense due to the unpopular opinion I hold that Tom isn’t really Addison’s dad.
I understand why Tom is full of rage, but to come in like that and insult people that have tried to help, to me, doesn’t help your cause. A wise man (named @reaton) once said “No, Tom, this isn’t the way”. I agree with him, this isn’t the way. To me, his barging in does not bring up feelings of empathy up towards him and his cause, in brings up feelings of anger and frustration towards him. He’s done it at least twice at this point and what has happened? Nothing. He was escorted out.
When Sentinel hijacked @reaton and a few others to hear his story, I feel that worked much better for them to understand the cause (despite the hijack). He spoke to them, emotionally, like a person, and told his story. He didn’t yell, he didn’t bust down any doors, he didn’t threaten…he just wanted help. If that meeting never happened, and all we saw was crazy Tom, I don’t think he’d have as much support as he does now.
Also, I didn’t realize the podcast was in game.
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August 17, 2016 at 6:10 pm #18649
@111error – thank you for that (I wish we could quote whole posts)
All of your points though, the same could be said about your feelings with the BoS.
You “know” what Sentinel/BoS has told you. That doesn’t make it true. The same way you told me I only know what they told me.
I do not know the people I spoke to aren’t who they say. BoS has not shown me who the everyday, hardworking people are like Attendant 17 or the Doctor or the popcorn lady. We have had actual human interaction with various OOA members. They are real people and they spoke to us (as in, they weren’t robots or an online persona). They did those things with us and for us, that isn’t a lie. My point is, Sentinel has been a symbol behind a computer screen. Who’s to say Sentinel isn’t Ellis or a Gatekeeper or anyone typing away to you (or calling you, does Sentinel make calls?) in order to stir the pot? We don’t know…none of us know.
Etc etc etcThe point is, we’re going to believe what we want. We can argue all day and night about how (insert organization A) is evil and then counter argue how (insert organization B) are hypocrites because of this and that. They’re interchangeable and not just within this experience (look at the presidential race). We’re obviously going to stand up for what we believe in and what we think is right despite possible false accusations for and against us.
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August 17, 2016 at 5:16 pm #18645
Since you seemed to not read anything I wrote except what you quoted….what did I say, in that post, that had anything to do with Ellis?
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August 17, 2016 at 5:02 pm #18643
Actually, I’d disagree with that. The OOA has given out way more information about themselves than Bos/Sentinel has.
The OOA has given us their story on how they came to be, we know most of the people within it and their rank (also the org chart), they have tried to teach us with stories and lessons from their past, they have sit and talked with us in person, etc. Despite your feelings on the OOA or the points I just made, they are factual and true. All of these things have been done in public for all to see. If there was really something to hide, why would they do that?
With Sentinel, we don’t know any of that. We don’t know who they are, we don’t know who is behind it, we don’t know where they came from or why (I’d love to know if they tried this with any other organizations in the past or if they have a list of who they’re going after or is it just the OOA), if it is, why? The whole “we want to expose the truth” is a cool reason, but is that it? Everything Sentinel has done has been in the shadows (the hack, the video, etc). Why wait to expose everything if they’re sick of the cat and mouse game? If the OOA is that bad, wouldn’t everything be exposed by now? Has anyone in BoS actually met Sentinel? Even BoS members have met the OOA’s Gatekeepers.
So it sounds like Sentinel has more to hide than the OOA
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August 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm #18626
Your house may not be, but your clubhouse sure is
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August 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm #18622
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August 17, 2016 at 2:03 pm #18620
@electrichippo – Apologies, my mistake (and good job on that collage!)
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August 17, 2016 at 1:54 pm #18615
Known for “My Scientology Movie” 😀
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August 16, 2016 at 11:56 am #18585
The thing is, everything is just opinion right now. Even saying that Addison wrote all of it. I think there was a point where it was not her writing anymore. Now, that could mean someone was controlling her thoughts/writings, something going on inside her brain (split personality), or it could mean that physically someone else was writing it (which I don’t think due to GK2 saying that it was hers). The ripped pages could be so many things and yes, I agree that the missing pages *could* have been ripped out by the OOA…but they also *could* be ripped out by Addison because of a painful memory she may not want to live through again or like @mkarrett said, they *could* be ripped out for a specific reason that’s bigger than all of that. It could be anything really. Personally, I’m curious what’s on those missing pages, but I’m not holding that against the other 60+ pages to have an opinion on it and her.
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