Echo Park – 6/11/2016

“Les Huit” = eight

“The club hopping, flamboyant and charismatic guru of sorts who sounds as if he walked strait from an Anne Rice novel.”

(I might be laughing.)

Ok so first thoughts about this diagram, by the way is fucking badass, but they are numbered as if they came from a book. I want to see this book, and I imagine most of us would as well. What other teachings, prophecies, and structure resides within this book??

Based on this chart, I’m still confused about the Regents and their place in the order. Do they not have any direct oversight?

Where do we think Light2Dark falls on this chart?

Ok, I now want the OOA structure chart as a phone wallpaper lol

But seriously, so much information here to study.

Hmmm, Overseer once said he was present to make sure “she doesn’t burn the house down”. We assumed at the time that he was referring to Gatekeeper 4. But it seems like Gatekeeper 4 is multiple tiers higher than Overseer. Strange that someone so much lower on the hierarchy would be entrusted to monitoring a Gatekeeper, Anoch’s #2.

And we do see one of our questions answered, but did we receive another question answered? Seems like it’s all an explanation of who they are, which is a great read, but I still ask if 2 of our 3 questions were answered?

@daela Light2Dark sounds like a Clockmaker to me. And maybe the one who was going to burn the house was Addison?

@coryphella – Congratulations on an amazing mission, successfully completed.

The letter with blacked-out text; Have you tried holding up to a light source and seeing if you can image the text beneath?

Are the blacked out spaces, the one’s offshooting from the Gatekeepers, where the resigned or removed Gatekeepers go? Such as @gatekeeper5 and @gatekeeper4? Can you shed some light on this @gatekeeper3 ??

Reading and rereading and rereading.

The third paragraph on the older page.. The birth of the Oracles via 242. Begat of flesh and bone, but does that mean they’re something else now?

It’s always seemed that the oracles are some power that have always been there, but perhaps not.. But are the original Oracles still the Oracles of today?

Anyone else feel like we’ve been given a couple answers along with fifteen more questions?

That’s an incredibly unique way for III to answer our questions… We got an organizational chart, and we got the numbers explained to us.

Hats off to III, I didn’t think the answers would be this… awesome

Ok so, we did get 2 of the questions answered. @thegilded I’ll take a 3rd read and see what I can see. Thank you for clarifying that.

– If possible, people that have the means to do so should publicize today’s events on and in their social media circles, try and invite others to use this as a foothold to join us.

Also, isn’t @mkarrett a Sentry of the Council? I don’t see that title in the org structure.

Disappointed that Anoch is a “He” tbh

A thought came to mind… when the aged letter is placed directly over the other text letter or even diagram, does make anything stand out?

JUST got back from a friend’s birthday party, I’ll play catch up in a bit. Hope you don’t mind but this Sentry is kinda neurotic so I changed the topic title to reflect the actual date to avoid confusion. <3

This is all incredible! The flow chart… The fact that the OOA is centuries old! And the AOL chat room thing slayed me.

It was also cool to get confirmation that we are on a “countdown.” But leading to what… Anoch’s rage? *gulp*

@coryphella I’m exceptionally happy for you, you travel all this distance and The OOA doesn’t ignore that. Today was an another proclamation upon our foundation of Community. I’m sorry I can’t meet you on this go-around, hopefully next time. You were definitely the hero of the day and solved some questions but was our vessel for very many more. Glory Be Sister!!

These are awesome. Great job @coryphella. I think I got the basic idea of what is being said in these documents but you all keep saying answers to numbers, with an s. I see the answer to 242, I am not sure about the other numbers though. If anyone could help me with that, I’d incredibly appreciate it.

Was the sheet with the redacted information on it just for a base of history of The Church of Anoch or do you think there is more?

Very awesome and I cannot understand that organizational chart whatsoever haha – I will continue to stare at it some more.

It’s neat how Anoch is depicted as the SUN in the structure pic.
Yet more Egyptian mythology ties?

Many ancient tension theorists, say yes. lol.

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Just chiming in after a weekend away (damn weddings).

Very cool we got 2/3 questions answered. Not surprised III didn’t answer all three questions.

I’m still on like 2 hours of sleep so I will have to dig into this when my brain is a little fresher.

Thanks Megan for doing the dirty work!

So as we know the Sentry title is missing on the organization chart. This could mean a couple things, in order of likelyhood:

-simple error
-the document is older, and Sentries were not needed before the OOA embraced tech
-Sentries are an extension of the Omega Council (sentries of the council)
-or sentries are not even an OOA title (remember what regent 7 said about one light and one dark?)

OK, yay! I can finally can say stuff!(Primarily after reading the various pages of stuff).

So I’ve been mostly spending my time with the structure chart. Much like @atticus360, I’ve already noted that the “Sentry” position isn’t on the list. (@TheGuilded has provided a rather excellent reason as to why this may be.) If I was the one writing that structure chart, I would put the “Sentry” probably near “The Omega Council” considering that the full title is “Sentry of the Council”.

It is also rather interesting to note that the Church of Anoch is simply another element of the OOA hierarchy. (also reminds me, I noticed on Facebook while browsing the Tension Experience page that some people recorded themselves kinda declaring that they were members of the Church. Just something I noticed…and want to do someday.) Having read the page with the heavy redaction marks, it seems that the OOA has existed for quite a long time under various aliases. I personally wonder just how deep the rabbit hole falls with the OOA and how…vast their connections are.

Finally, there’s the page that looks like it was torn out of the OOA’s holy book. Tells what I’m interpreting as the creation myth of the Oracles and it also explains the meaning behind the number 242. Much like @addisonborn, I too wonder whether the Oracles of our time are the same as the ones in the myth. If so, I think it means they’ve been around for a seriously long time.

Welp, those are my thoughts as of now.

Yeah, good points Mustafa. Some good insight into the OOA and the history surrounding it. I am also not suprised at the information that has unfolded.
A group that sought to bathe mankind in the sacred knowledge hidden from the masses by the controlling “Elite”. They were progressing it seems.. until they darkened. Began to misuse the knowledge or at least succumbed to corruption, Greed, Murder, Fraud etc.
They became the opposite of the intent.
Sad really.
But then again, if not for their mistakes there may never have been the evolution or adaptation that was needed for tension to form.
In a way. We owe our _paths to the or mistakes and I believe we should learn from them lest history repeat itself.
There’s my thoughts.

anyone else find it interesting that the gatekeepers and clockmakers exist above the OOA? In theory, this would mean they have power over the OOA, not the other way around.
Very interesting.

The way I read the chart is that the entities on the same horizontal line would have equal power within the organization.
Therefore, church of anoch=OOA=Omega Council

Finally, as @kingkill33 pointed out, what are the boxes connected to the lines coming from the gatekeepers that we cannot see? Oracles? Whoever they are, they exist outside the circle, with Anoch.

16.06.2016

And what happens on the 16th? @muthiloced

Also, wanted to point out that the OOA and the church of anoch are two seperate entities in this chart (but with equal power)… What exactly is the difference? The OOA just broke off from the church and did their own thing but are now using technology (social media, forums, website, etc)? But they both work together? Why not just integrate tech into the original church instead of creating an entirely new entity that’s the exact same but with tech?

Also! If someone can clarify, I know bob jones had spoke of the fire that was referenced in the article found… I don’t know if I’m remembering wrong or Mis read it but it seemed that bob jones thought the OOA was partly to blame for the fire? But the article seems to say otherwise and the fire actually freaked the church out and made them dip? If someone who got the email could clarify that was be awesome!

Been a crazy weekend that’s stopped me from interacting for the most part, but these letters are extremely curious. First and foremost, I’ll re-address the Sentry issue. We’ve never received solid confirmation, but my understanding is that it’s a newer role that wasn’t needed until forums, social media, etc were utilized. @mkarrett and I aren’t officially recognized members of the OOA, or honored the way that @mike is, but we are a newer role that protects Aspirants and Disciples in the forums, and provide support to them. Especially since I believe that this document is a bit older, I’m not surprised that Sentry is not included on the structure.

I’d like to further comment on @mumumusings, you should be aware that, while the OOA does deserve our loyalty for showing us the Light, those that went on video claiming that they were “A part of the Church of Anoch” and such didn’t actually claim that directly, they were video-taped saying the opposite, that they were NOT members. They had their videos edited so that it would seem as though they were saying the opposite. Mike soon after saw the Light and rose to Scribe, while Sean the Fallen… well, we know how he’s turned away from it.

I’m particularly curious about the organizational structure, as others have commented on. I’m extremely curious as to who else, outside of the Tension Circle, is connected to the Gatekeepers. They seem to have at least 8 other roles connected to them. Further, there seem to be several roles that we have not been either introduced to, or at least we’ve been interacting with members of these roles without knowing it. For example, many have spoken with Aleister. We know he is not a Gatekeeper, is he a Chaperone? A Guide? In my conversations with him, he’s spoken of the Clockmakers, so I’m certain enough that he’s not in that group, but I’m not certain what his role is.

After looking at it again it really intrigues me that Clockmakers are above the separated OOA, Church of Anoch, and Omega Council. I find it fascinating that they are on the same level and not one in the same.

Now how do people move up on this chart? The next step for Apostles of the beginning is either a scribe or a leader. Once there they can move up to Elder or over to chaperone. Then the elder becomes part of the Church of Anoch while the chaperone can move up into Guide then overseer than the OOA. But as an overseer you can move over to elder or regent. Once a regent you have to go back to overseer to become part of the OOA.

There are so many paths and most of us here are all the way down at the bottom. We have a long road ahead of us.

What a crazy Saturday. I was out at Fringe events but thanks to the community here, I was updated via texts about what was transpiring. I was able to catch the Periscope treasure hunt live, so that was awesome!

Looking at the org chart…it makes me think that this is a small part of it. To the right and left are more positions that are connected. Also, at the bottom is a 42 and 43. Is this the 42nd and 43rd page? 42 could mean something based on 242 being important.

@coryphella – is there any significance to the “dots” besides some of the positions? It looks like some are blurred and some are more clear. Does it look like anything in person?

Knowing about 242 now and relooking at the logo, I think that number is part of it. Check it out

……. 😥😲ok… winds of change.

So I can actually draw a 3 and 5 as well as 7and 9 on the logo as well.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 5 months ago by  Cody.

Hey guys,

Yes I’m doing the forensic testing on the redacted document but it’s in progress.

As for the documents I scanned them today, here they are:

The last image (the org chart) had a distorted look.

I didn’t realize OOA, Church of Anoch and Omega Council were not the same thing

I wonder the significance of 242

Did they not answer our other question about what clues we’re missing?

Because that’s kind of horse shitty.

they said 2 out of 3, that’s the way the cards fell. We could’ve asked the same question three times, but I feel like we got some pretty good answers. And they kept their word

Something I just noticed. On the newsletter draft that Andrew and Buz found, there was a handwritten note: “This must be given to controler[sic]! Left hand must know what right hand is doing!”

I don’t see “Controler” on this organizational chart.

@coryphella have you tried rubbing alcohol to remove the redacted parts? Probably nothing, but worth a shot.

So I would assume were all Apostles of the Beginning?