THINGS HAZEL UNDERSTANDS – Post Ascension

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  • #21598
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    Hazel Cloud
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    A conversation:

    THERE WILL BE SPOILERS- IF YOU HAVE YET TO GO THROUGH ASCENSION AND WISH TO REMAIN OBLIVIOUS TO THE GOINGS ON WITHIN, I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE THAT YOU GO TO MY THREAD “HAZEL UNDERSTANDS,” AS DETAILS INCLUDED WITHIN THAT THREAD ARE PRE-ASCENSION BASED DETAILS. IF YOU CONTINUE TO READ PAST THIS POINT, THE LIABILITY LIES WITH YOU, MY FRIEND. YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED.

    Me:
    Who is Sentinel?
    is that Ellis?

    Someone Else:
    Head of BOS

    Me:
    I though Aleister and Ellis were the same person

    Someone Else:
    Im not sure on that

    Me:
    If that guy is OSDM…
    They are in control of Ascension?
    wait
    is samson osdm?

    Someone Else:
    Yes

    Me:
    duuuuuuh. cause they kidnapped GK2

    Someone Else:
    Yes

    Me:
    So the play is for OOA to regain control…
    (or BOS)
    but OOA and BOS are against OSDM

    Someone Else:
    BOS it seems more and more is an agent of OSDM or the OOA

    Me:
    Because of Kim

    Someone Else:
    Yes and no
    More so foe the BOS badge you saw

    Me:
    But in Kevin’s experience… they killed the guy?
    God I really hope my eyes didn’t make that up in the dark….
    I def know it didn’t say police
    or sheriff or anything like that

    Someone Else:
    Regardless he told you he was BOS
    and then answered to overseer

    Me:
    No. He didn’t say it explicitly. Only said he never said he was police

    Someone Else:
    And that other guy… i feel as though thats a ruse

    Me:
    Ooooh
    I see

    Someone Else:
    Well then back to not being sure

    Me:
    I wish I got a better look at that badge… I can’t say for sure cause I didn’t hold it in my hand
    Why would they fake rescue us? Seems like an elaborate test… Especially since it didn’t lead anywhere but the auditorium
    where they already had the oracle that they wanted to test
    and failed
    Was it all a big set up for trip 2?
    That is the direction I’m currently leaning. They knew I wouldn’t just come once…. before I even realized what this was, they saw that

    Someone Else:
    Nothing is coincidence
    And nothing is as it seems

    Me:
    Now that I think about it…. I all but spelled it out for them…. I posted that morning that I wanted something that would last more than 2 hours… that I could really sink my teeth in to
    “Are you that girl that blew up our boards today?”
    LOL
    That is like the first thing Addison asked me

    Someone Else:
    LOL
    You’ve made an impression

    Me:
    I think they were confirming our _path

    Someone Else:
    Just be wary that you didnt attract the attention of the wrong people 😳

    Me:
    Like?

    Someone Else:
    @samson
    Or his Boss

    Me:
    BRING it
    I HOPE they try
    Every day I get stronger in my _path.

    P.S: WE WOULD have conversations like these here, but there is no chat function. Just a thought.

  • #21612
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    Hazel Cloud
    Participant

    I understand this better.

    THERE WILL BE SPOILERS- IF YOU HAVE YET TO GO THROUGH ASCENSION AND WISH TO REMAIN OBLIVIOUS TO THE GOINGS ON WITHIN, I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE THAT YOU GO TO MY THREAD “HAZEL UNDERSTANDS,” AS DETAILS INCLUDED WITHIN THAT THREAD ARE PRE-ASCENSION BASED DETAILS. IF YOU CONTINUE TO READ PAST THIS POINT, THE LIABILITY LIES WITH YOU, MY FRIEND. YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED.

    Me:
    I’m missing the significance. I’m also confused as to who Sentinel is. I understand their role, but I can’t distinguish who it is

    Someone Else:
    Ok so

    Me:
    Is Sentinel Ellis? And is Ellis Aleister?

    Someone Else:
    NO

    Me:
    lol

    Someone Else:
    In BOS, there is a “leader” of sorts

    Me:
    I’m so confused because of Blondies posts

    Someone Else:
    He is the leader of BOS

    Someone Else:
    Everyone is equal is BOS, sentinel is basically the role of speaker

    Me:
    Right, that I understand

    Someone Else:
    Sentinel is not just one man

    Me:
    that he is the leader

    Someone Else:
    It’s a position

    Me:
    I seeeee

    Someone Else:
    Yes

    Me:
    So it’s a title
    not a person

    Someone Else:
    Yes
    A while back the sentinel went missing and we got the new sentinel
    Long hair sentinel

    Me:
    So there have been different ones

    Someone Else:
    Yes

    Me:
    Ah… Long hair sentinel?

    Someone Else:
    The lead singer of the Cure

    Someone Else:
    However don’t ask me about Ellis sentinel
    Yes
    He likes nin

    Someone Else:
    Fucking loves em

    Me:
    hu?

    Someone Else:
    Idk about Ellis sentinel
    Lmao

    Me:
    Wait what

    Someone Else:
    Que?

    Someone Else:
    I missed Blondies post

    Someone Else:
    Like white male with long dark hair?

    Someone Else:
    Yes
    Did he save you

    Someone Else:
    Same guy Kevin that saved you

    Someone Else:
    Did he get his head bashed in

    Someone Else:
    That got the bat

    Me:
    Blondie loved Aleister…. and said when she went through Eliis saved her… she referred to him as Sentinel

    Someone Else:
    He is the guy that threw me into the back of a haul
    Yea

    Someone Else:
    Yes that would be BOS
    Is he the same guy that was in the changing room

    Someone Else:
    You saw him get bashed in
    ?
    with the facial hair
    ?

    Someone Else:
    No

    Someone Else:
    I think Blondie made mistake

    Someone Else:
    No

    Someone Else:
    Straight up

    Someone Else:
    She didn’t
    Hold on

    Someone Else:
    Yea

    Me:
    FHOAFH Someone told me it was the same guy who shat on my personality
    lol

    Someone Else:
    Check this shit

    Me:
    ok…
    “When you are within the walls of the OOA, just because you see someone die, it doesn’t mean they don’t carry on living within someone else’s path. But in terms of my path, he was my knight in Sentinel armour and saved my life”

    Someone Else:
    (blank) can you send screenshot of nin sentinel
    What is non sentinel?
    nin

    Someone Else:
    Nine inch nails

    Someone Else:
    Lmao nine inch nails, he looks to be a big fan

    Someone Else:
    Yeah hang on

    Me:
    confused

    Someone Else:
    It was my way of making fun of him

    Someone Else:
    Lmfao

    Me:
    “A man of many names but to me, only one that mattered. You died because of my stupidity. I cannot get your blood from under my nails. I cannot get your face out of my head. My heart is broken. I do not deserve your ultimate sacrifice. I’m so sorry Ellis…”
    I see

    Someone Else:
    Lowkey would blast nin on my way to tension to get hyped as BOS

    Someone Else:
    Because he was set up to be this big all mighty dude
    For BOS
    Uh hu

    Someone Else:
    all mysterious and shit

    Someone Else:
    Eyes to die for

    Someone Else:
    And then he just looks like your basic goth dude
    lol

    Me:
    LOL
    Someone Else:
    I love him

    MeL
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
    GRJLNSF. AIVAEUORSHO ;IR WSLE HRV

    Someone Else:
    Woah

    Me:
    Sorry

    Someone Else:
    lmao it’s cool

    Me:
    I let my emotions out…
    lol

    Someone Else:
    Lmaooo

    Someone Else:
    That image was epic

    Someone Else:
    So that is my bb
    That would be MY Sentinel
    Check this out
    That would be Ellis sentinel

    Someone Else:
    Thats not Ellis

    Someone Else:
    Yes?

    Me:
    What you mean that’s not Ellis

    Someone Else:
    Not the same guy named ellis at scare LA

    Me:
    Ok…
    so

    Someone Else:
    It is dawg

    ME:
    the weird dude was sentinel
    not the nin one

    Someone Else:
    Oh shit
    oh wait

    Someone Else:
    Dafuw
    Dafuq
    NOW IM FUCKING CONFUSED
    yes the first one is the weird nin dude

    Someone Else:
    So I’m not entirely sure what’s up with Ellis sentinel
    But nin sentinel is my boy
    but he is not ellis

    Someone Else:
    That was my sentinel
    He got head bashed in

    Me:
    the second was yours
    ?

    Someone Else:
    First was

    Someone Else:
    NIN was mine

    Me:
    cause those are not the same person

    Someone Else:
    Yes not sure why
    who was the second dude?

    Someone Else:
    Ellis
    Changing room guy

    Me:
    personality guy
    the one that yelled at Sadie during my first round?

    Someone Else:
    Yes

    Me:
    who is the first guy

    ME:
    you had both

    Someone Else:
    Both were win

    Me:
    lol

    Someone Else:
    I saw sentinel each time

    Me:
    who the fuck is ellis

    Someone Else:
    But it was the same sentinel
    Ok so Ellis was first introduced at scare la

    Me:
    ok

    Someone Else:
    He was said to be the creator of tension
    He was in the panel

    Me:
    Leister
    Gordon?

    Someone Else:
    No

    MeL
    Different dude altogether

    Someone Else:
    Alister and Ellis were partners in this
    Wait, Atticus

    Me:
    Not aleister
    He was THERE at ScareLa- Ellis

    Someone Else:
    Atticus and Ellis were at the scare la panel

    Me:
    ok

    Someone Else:
    Ellis was said to be the creator

    Me:
    right

    Someone Else:
    BOS hacked the trailer they were playing and on the screen, it showed that Ellis was an actor hired to pretend to be the creator
    The next time we saw him was in the changing room
    Then some people saw him as sentinel
    I have the original BOS video from scare la

    Someone Else:
    Interestingly, they never had me meet any Sentinel or BoS of any kind

    Me:
    NOW I get it

    Someone Else:
    They were more interested in interrogating me about BoS and then aligning me with Addison

    Someone Else:
    Yes.
    Here hazel

    Tension Freak Out at ScareLA – 8/6/2016

    Me:
    What do you mean?

    Someone Else:
    I’m trying to find the BOS video

    ME:
    (a total dick about it)
    I’ve seen it. I was just confused cause some where along the line I thought I read Aleister and Ellis were the same people

  • #21624

    @hazelcloud: I trust you received permission to post all this? It’s pretty apparent to me at least two of the “someone else” voices. If you still feel unclear about BOS and Sentinel, let me know.

    • #21626
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      I’ve got it Kim. Thanks.

  • #21629
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    creepsociety
    Participant

    Am I missing the point of conversations being posted? I’d be wary with such detailed descriptions, some might find it harder to trust if everything is posted. Just a heads up.

    • #21630
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      That’s fine. Not everything I do is to be understood by all.

      I only wish to bring ENLIGHTENMENT, and shed a little light on my _path.

    • #21631
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      Addison Born
      Participant

      Yeah, if my private shit got posted without my consent I’d have an issue.. Not a matter of “understanding” but a matter of keeping things said in a private context private.

  • #21632
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    Hazel Cloud
    Participant

    .

  • #21633
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    Hazel Cloud
    Participant

    For sake of getting back to the points discussed in the posts I meant for you to consider…

    I posted this because I was VERY confused about something.

    I thought, perhaps, someone would be able to help me understand… as this is a forum for discussion.

    Instead of asking convoluted questions, I decided to post my query. I removed parts people asked me to remove.

    Someone replied via direct message. I had since had my question answered in a way that I could understand.

    Instead of giving a vague response in the message, I finished the thought of the original post.

    THIS THREAD was designed as an extension of HAZEL UNDERSTANDS (which I, erroneously thought would be understood), which discusses details pre-Ascension. This is a continuation of that thread.

    As a writer, I appreciate presenting thoughts in different ways. I won’t apologize when it’s misunderstood. I will say, that I absolutely will not post anything you tell me without your permission, so chill.

    HAPPY FACE :)

    • #21634
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      Addison Born
      Participant

      Sure, but you def needed to think about it before posting the first time. This is a forum for discussion yes, but posting discussions held elsewhere word for word isn’t cool.

      The forum is also in-game. Like, always in-game. There was a near month-long discussion about how to even approach discussion of Ascension here before anyone talked about it, because apart from spoilers, those thoughts are pretty OOG.

      A great way to keep thoughts in order without blowing up the forum may be a blog? I have a notebook with my ideas, but you seem to want your stuff public. Blogs are good for that for sure.

      You have thoughts about a lot of stuff obviously but a blog may be more conducive to keeping things lined up vs taking over the activity feed?

      Just some thoughts. Have a great night!

    • #21635
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      Honestly, everything I do is for a reason. I appreciate it Addison… but I’m not asking for advice. I’m asking for answers.

    • #21636
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      Addison Born
      Participant

      Wasn’t so much advice. More asking a favor. :)

    • #21637
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      Guess I missed that part.

    • #21638
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      Addison Born
      Participant

      All good. It’s just very frustrating to see friends’ stuff getting posted without permission and four month old threads getting rezzed. Makes it difficult to keep things straight. Didn’t mean to start shit, just please keep the state of the activity feed in mind, as many things have been getting buried quickly as of late!! We’re all here for answers, and all here to discover them as a community.

    • #21639
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      You know, I get where you’re coming from. ESPECIALLY just having come in to it last Friday. It has been an incredibly daunting task trying to keep things straight (as this very post demonstrates).

      I do, however, think it is unfair to limit my contribution based on the activity feed. My thoughts, however late, deserve to be reflected, as I am a member of this community. I understand your frustrations, though.

      Many have advised me to use the search bar located at the top of the main forum page.

      It would help if people tagged things for efficiently, but that’s another stream of thoughts altogether.

      I have been working tirelessly trying to establish an accurate timeline and am, in fact, am working on a bible. If you would like to contribute, I would greatly appreciate it, as it seems you have an extensive understanding of how things ought to work around here.

      I look forward to growing with you.

    • #21684
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      HAHA- take a look at those iPhone typos. 😛

  • #21679
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    Megan
    Participant

    So, wait, I’m confused. This is a private conversation you had and it’s now copied/pasted here? And it’s not with a character and it’s not current info?

    I just want to piggyback on something that @addisonborn said here because I think it’s important. A lot of us have been here a long time and have worked hard to create a “community” of sorts. We are completely welcoming to newcomers, but newcomers should generally be aware of and respect the culture they are entering. The site isn’t perfect and we’ve developed some etiquette to help all of us navigate it – for instance, the adoption of 280 characters of SPOILER warnings so as to not put spoilers accidentally in the activity feed. That requires HUGE community buy in and we have it, because we’re really into this.

    If this private conversation were in-game and between you and AG or another character I could understand posting it, because we’ve agreed unofficially as a community that information given to us as individuals is shared unless we have a good reason to keep it to ourselves (“good reason” pretty much only used to mean that you were told to keep it to yourself, but with Ascension, that might be more nebulous now).

    Believe me, I am THE WORST at being meta or off topic on the forums and I’ve tried hard over several months to curb that tendency. I try to confine that to my own blog and to conversations elsewhere, and to the articles I write. Again, I’m sorry my timeline isn’t up to help you out, it’s out of my control right now, I’ll try to get to it after the semester ends, rebuilding it is going to be a big project. But seriously, we ONLY have the activity feed on this site, and we only have that because we asked for it (in May?) so we try to keep it as clean as possible. And I’m totally fine with doing that so that the Creators can put their energies into the thing we’re all so passionate about instead of a streamlined website.

    • #21682
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      While I respect your position, I don’t find myself agreeing with it.

      Things evolve. Every day there are people joining. Every day there are new voices added. Every day there are people saying that they’ve followed along this whole time, but are just now speaking up.

      I understand and appreciate your compulsion to protect your community. However, it is not an exclusive club with explicit rules. We all should have an opportunity to evolve in our own _path, and in our own way, without being publicly chastised.

      Indoctrination is over. Ascension is nearing completion. These forums are here for us to review and contribute to. This is the mode in which we communicate.

      You know what makes a community? Communication.

      To censor me is beyond egregious.

      The creators have said themselves that this project is the first of its kind- and that is true in SO many ways. The possibilities are endless!

      Maybe your processes worked before things blew up. Maybe I am that blow up. Things are different now, and unless I am breaking some rules (the ones that shouldn’t be broken), I refuse to apologize.

      If you don’t like what I post- don’t read it. It shows you who is posting RIGHT next to every post in the activity feed. If you are incapable of filtering what you read, I can not help you with that.

      I have put the spoiler alert on things I thought contained spoilers. If you believe that I’ve missed something, feel free to come to me PRIVATELY with your concerns.

  • #21686
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    Megan
    Participant

    No one is censoring anyone. And I highly doubt you are important enough to be a “blow up.” But you go right ahead thinking that.

    • #21689
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      Cute.

      Let the chips fall.

  • #21688
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    Babyface
    Participant

    I for one appreciate the post which has helped me understand. Many of the questions you pose our questions I had as well
    Thank you for creating hazel understands and I’d appreciate being able to see all this in one thread separate from the current events and not muddling up other threads.

  • #21694
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    Lawrence
    Participant

    We’re a community. Let us never be hard-headed or hard-hearted.

    • #21697
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      Hazel Cloud
      Participant

      You know, my friend, I can appreciate the reminder. Glory be.

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