Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November – 11/05 Post-Raid Discussion

all the sound and fury

@sadako, I’m very interested to see what @masterlock has in store for us. I’m just not sure I want to be standing next to her when she goes off. I’ll bear witness from a safe distance.

I don’t think this is the first time OSDM has done this. @masterlock may be an anomaly in an otherwise well-oiled machine.

Are you certain that this is the only place this story may be playing out right now? @samson has OSDM and OOA chapters everywhere. It’s so much bigger than this one @masterlock.

I’m curious about your experience. Have you seen other peoples’ write ups? Was the experience different for infiltrators? Were you successful in your task to contribute towards the undermining of the OOA/OSDM?

I’m particularly curious how They would treat an openly hostile force within their walls

I hope that they do. Gathering data points on what is and is not affected by which courses of action could only further their causes.

Judging based off the fact that there are a number of agents openly acting against the OOA/OSDM with impunity, it may be safe to assume that hostile action is not being taken against those who share their experiences here.

Who says this chapter is ending?

Perhaps it is due for a reformation, but a dissolution isn’t within the foreseeable future.

Though we may not all agree with methods, many of us stand with the message that founded the OOA.

Enlightenment isn’t unattainable for those who are steadfast.

I knew that there were links to Anonymous in your protests, are you now claiming yourself to be representatives of the group? I ask because this would not be the first time that someone put on a Guy Fawkes mask and posted here claiming more power and influence than they really have.

I am also curious as to which cults you are referring to having dismantled? Your video, for example, references the Anonymous attacks on Scientology which is an organization that still exists

Just got back from the burn center. What’d I miss?

@thegilded, A fair, and excellent point. We are all individuals, making individual choices. One cannot accurately claim to represent a group, only one’s self. Each bird in a flock is not aware of the movements of the flock as a whole. Each bird is only aware of itself, and its immediate neighbors. Any number of birds can choose to fly together, for any reason. That does not obligate all birds to join this particular flock, nor does it speak for those who choose differently.

Anonymous doesn’t have an identity, and cannot be spoken for, despite numerous attempts on the part of others to do so. Anyone who claims to represent Anonymous is almost by definition, a liar. That is true here as well.

You may see masks, but that’s just a tip o’ the hat. The truth of the matter is that Anonymous itself is just a mask that can be worn, or not worn. It’s our actions that allow us to effect change on the world around us, not what we wear, or how it’s branded. Sometimes it’s a useful distraction when people focus on a mask, and ignore what’s actually important.

Scientology has not yet been dismantled, but it has been de-fanged, and exposed for the paper tiger that it is. It continues to be toxic to the health, and well-being of others, but it is under quarantine, where it will remain. When was the last time you took Scientology seriously? When was the last time a journalist was afraid to write about them? When was the last time their membership was increasing, rather than facing an inexorable decline? An organization with billions of dollars in the bank can afford to keep itself on life support for quite some time, but it doesn’t change the prognosis.

Cults are often very similar to each other in many ways, regardless of their particular flavor of dogma. To the extent that these two are similar, it’s fun, and occasionally helpful draw attention to those similarities, but it’s more important that we focus on the cult in front of us, rather than the competition, just down the street.

As OOA likes to tell us, “You are the lie.” The Guy Fawkes mask is just as much a lie as your name brand clothing, your political parties, and your fancy sports cars. It’s a fun distraction, but *you* should be focusing on the cult in front of you, and let OSDM get distracted by silly masks.

You seem to be the victim of your own delusion… for I am certainly not one.

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