What we know We don't Know

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  • #21867
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    Hazel Cloud
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    Hahaha. That title makes me giggle.

    THIS THREAD MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.

    Puzzles and riddles and tests, OH MY!!

    What I’m hoping this turns into is a timeline of things we DON’T yet have answers for or things that haven’t yet been confirmed.

    A separate thread will be created keeping track of what we DO know (or think we know).

    NOW THIS IS NOT A THREAD meant to figure those things out.

    It can be difficult keeping track of what we don’t know and what we should be focusing on. Hopefully, this can help me (and those reading!) with that.

    To give us a starting point:

    1. We DON’T know Tom’s current affiliation/position.
    2. We DON’T know who is ultimately in control of the OOA
    3. We DON’T know what their goals are
    4. We DON’T know what happened to Jenna
    5. We DON’T know what type of loop or paradox is happening within Ascension
    6. We DON’T know what is happening at the end of Ascension

  • #21872
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    Andrew Kasch
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    We truly don’t know what Anoch is beyond the OOA’s deity.

    • #21882
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      Hazel Cloud
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      Right! Only that he’s a split being (right? – [the origin of the gatekeepers seemed to imply such]).

  • #21877
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    Izryn
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    We don’t know how or why Sabrina got involved with the OOA/OSDM, or why they need her to inhabit the Addison personality.

    • #21878
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      Michelle
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      @izryn I apologize. I deleted my comment because I was basing my reply on Addison not Sabrina. Sorry no answers for you there. Money? An acting job? That’s my guess as to how Sabrina got involved.

      • This reply was modified 7 years, 11 months ago by Profile photo of Michelle Michelle.
    • #21883
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      Hazel Cloud
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      -Good catch Michelle!

    • #21881
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      Hazel Cloud
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      Yes! The journal! Must re-read soon.

  • #21930
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    PuppetGirl
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    Yeah It would be interesting to reread and see if the journal was “Addison” or “Sabrina”. I hadn’t thought of that before.

    • #21931
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      Izryn
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      I did a Ctrl+F for “Addison” or “Addy” in the journal transcript. Here are all of the times her name appears.

      The title page of the journal says “This Journal belongs to Addison Barrow, actress.”

      When Mark gives her the cell phone, he says “‘Open it, Addison.'” On the same page, he says “‘They do know you, Addy. They know you inside.'”

      Mark calls her to give her the Sadie’s message at Starbucks: “‘Absolutely totally fine, Addy'” and “‘Addy,’ he said, ‘I am so sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but Sadie just didn’t know what to say…'” The next couple pages are dialogue between Addison and Mark, and Mark uses her name frequently.

      Sadie’s note: “‘ADDISON PLEASE JUST DO WHAT HE SAYS'”

      The first time the journal body refers to its subject by name is when Addison is already within the OOA: “Gatekeeper 5 also told me that, if I was going to
      stay with the OOA I wouldn’t need to use the name Addison anymore.”

      When Mark tries to get her our: “My father says, ‘You don’t konw.’ ‘YOU don’t know, Addy.’ Like I’m a child.” Some of the following dialogue also uses her name.

      Those were all the references I found, but that still doesn’t tell us where Sabrina ends and Addison begins. If I were the OOA/OSDM trying to brainwash one person into thinking they were another via a diary, you bet I would include as much of their former life as possible to blur those lines. Memory manipulation is easy, and has been researched extensively (the author of this article is a professor from the university I graduated from). So once again, even after looking at the clues, we know nothing.

  • #21949
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    Why was Addison taken to the helmet after she answered a couple of questions successfully (about Anoch and Oracles)? Wouldn’t it make more sense if she was taken to the helmet after answering the questions incorrectly?

    • #21980
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      Hazel Cloud
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      When?

    • #22017
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      coastergoblin
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      This happened on my second visit. I’ve read different variations of this scene and some have Addison talking back to Samson which triggers some helmet time. Maybe I missed that.

    • #22021
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      Hazel Cloud
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      Ah, yes! I remember those accounts. Just wanted to confirm we were thinking of the same thing. :) Thanks

    • #22610
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      coastergoblin
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      So after last night it makes more sense why Addison was taken to the helmet after answering questions correctly.. they have been trying to de-program her faith in Anoch.

  • #22382
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    Daela
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    My major unanswered question is – is there anything specific that Addison/Overseer/Sabrina wants to ask Anoch?

    She seems desperate to hear his voice. She’s willing for people to die for her cause. Is there any particular crisis she’s hoping that Anoch will solve? Any reason for the urgency?

    If she gets all of her oracles up and running…what will she say to him?

    • #22383
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      Lawrence
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      I suspect that is all a function of her brainwashing. This whole thing is a ruse with ODSM at its center and the OOA as its cover.

  • #22615
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    Josh Forbes
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    Did anyone translate her multi-lingual periscope? (Is this even the right place to ask this question? I’m new.)

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