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August 6, 2016 at 12:51 am #17669
I hope you’ll entertain my question despite the fact that I cannot attend. I’ve given my invite to @irishalliwell120 to attend in my stead:
1. What is the biggest problem that has been faced with Tension so far?
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August 5, 2016 at 11:14 am #17616
The Sentry role goes as far back as 184, then? There goes my original thought that we were a new breed…
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August 5, 2016 at 9:12 am #17599
I don’t believe this is a memorial. This is a reminder for all participants, disciples, and everyone attending ScareLA, Ascension, or anything else that violence is not an option.
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August 4, 2016 at 3:27 pm #17522
Gatekeeper 197 spoke to the king. Further supports the idea that this has all been a countdown to whoever or whatever Gatekeeper 1 will be.
Further, this is an interesting insight in how Anoch/OOA operate, they speak what they view the Light to be through the mouths of those that will be able to spread it, telling them to speak the words as though they are their own.
This has ramifications in that it implies that Anoch/OOA are operating through their agents and we view them to be independent. Could be that Anoch wanted everything that happened between 4 and 2 to happen. Could be that Anoch wanted 3 and Buz to play out the way that they did, and that a Gatekeeper or Anoch are working through these people toward a larger goal.
I would theorize that Sentinel himself could also be another manifestation of this, but I’m hesitant to say so, the book suggests that Betrayers have been present since the beginning and are something independent from the King and 197’s interactions
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August 8, 2016 at 2:24 pm #17824
@jeffheimbuch – First, I appreciate your input on Tension even if I don’t necessarily agree with it. I suspect that the reason why you don’t like it is the reason why we love it: Tension is non-traditional storytelling. There is a huge amount of relationships, details, and points to go through if you’d like to get caught up completely with what’s been happening since February but how deep you’d like to go is less important than the main points. For example, Atticus is a name that’s been spoken a few times throughout the experience but knowing who he is is less important than knowing about the BoS (Brothers of Seraph) and their antagonistic relationship with the OOA, the 4 Gatekeepers we’ve met so far and how they’ve met their end. Those are the important points and if someone does not have the time to go digging for all of the details that we eat up, the story can still be followed by following their plotlines.
The Powers That Be behind Tension are, for the most part, partaking in monodirectional communication. They speak to you but you do not speak to them. For someone viewing this as a performance, that’s likely incredibly frustrating but to us it’s necessitated the formation of the forums and the community. This simultaneously allows The Powers That Be to maintain an air of mystery and impenetrability that makes the Tension organizations seem so alluringly clandestine and strengthens the community by nature of the fact that if you need help following Tension you don’t ask Them, you ask us. We have developed our own structure that has people solely dedicated to the cause of explaining and catching people up.
You are right and do bring up some valid criticisms but the reason why we love Tension is because it’s this beautiful knot of tangled details and stories that can only be unraveled by helping each other and filling in the pieces that others have missed.
This approach trades away some people’s ability to approach Tension on their own, independent of the community, but in doing so gains a community that is actually a very large drawing point for many of those who remain. I suspect that many of us love it for that tradeoff and may be angry at your article because it reads in a way that suggests you were trying to approach it on your own which is not the way the game is played.
With all of that said, I again would like to state that I appreciate your response and your willingness to engage in a dialog with us
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August 6, 2016 at 10:09 pm #17715
A someone who’s pledged BoS, I’m extremely curious what this video was. I wasn’t there to see it but very much want to
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August 5, 2016 at 11:51 am #17629
I assume that they’re Gatekeepers, which are all a countdown. This establishes the timeline. We’re at the end of the countdown with 5 through 1, but who knows how many years ago 184 and 197 were both around, likely in different eras of human history
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August 5, 2016 at 9:55 am #17604
Wouldn’t be surprised. As long as any blurring that happens occurs with Their permission and not rogue participants thinking they can be the next Gatekeeper by showing up and knocking someone out
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August 5, 2016 at 9:40 am #17601
No. No. No. I’m going to take this opportunity to both speak to you and through you to all the other Participants and I’m going to address this as directly as I can to ensure that my concerns are voiced.
In my opinion, this post addresses the issue that Buz acted directly against III in a way that other Participants may feel that they can emulate. There are two entities in Tension: we, the participants and Them, the OOA, BoS, Addison, III, 4, etc. Them and us. They can act against each other. 2 can kill 4. III can attack Sam. However, if at any point any of us thinks that we can act on our own and in any way directly physically harm 2, Sentinel, or any other Participant in any way YOU ARE A DAMN FOOL.
Buz blurred the line of what We can do to Them, but it is likely that this was all set up in such a way that this is alright. If you show up to Ascension thinking that you can advance the plot similarly by choking out Addison or anyone, you are wrong and deserve all of the actual, non-Tension punishments you’ll be receiving.
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August 4, 2016 at 8:49 pm #17572
I let it go on long enough, longer than I should have. This isn’t because you were defending yourself, this is because the conversation is off topic and inappropriate for the public.
This topic is closed. Start a new one if you want to fight
- This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by Melissa. Reason: changed "may" to "topic"
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August 4, 2016 at 8:26 pm #17566
This topic has gone way off course. Take it to pm’s or someplace else before I start deleting comments or closing topics
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August 4, 2016 at 2:25 pm #17497
I’m not so naive as to believe that a peaceful answer can always be found, we are much to base a species to have a peaceful solution to every problem. However, the sacrifice has been, by and large, glossed over in this discussion. Ending a life taints the killer irrevocably. Buz was the first among us, to my knowledge, that has tainted himself in this way for a cause that we barely understand and certainly can’t trust.
Have the Disciples become so zealous that killing for the OOA has become something worthy of celebration? That is no longer faith, that is radicalization. It is exceptionally unlikely that Buz will be the last. When the OOA demands another head and justifies it with text on a screen and videos dispersed online and promises of the “greater good”, are we to celebrate the further corruption of the Disciples, as well?
Now more than ever, every Disciple reading this should ask themselves: How far are you willing to go for Them?
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August 4, 2016 at 2:07 pm #17491
The essence of the point that I have the biggest trouble justifying is when, in each of our minds, “murderer” and “assassin” become the other. It is a utilitarian thought to believe that sacrificing X lives in favor of Y lives is justified when Y is greater than X. A mathematical argument can be made for it, but make no mistake that any who kill or actively support a kill, while acting in a utilitarian sense, are losing a piece of a their humanity when you begin to look at, not the ending of a life, but balancing the equations. It concerns me how supporters of last night’s action are so quick to accept the loss of a piece of their humanity for a cause we barely understand.
But how balanced are you willing to accept in this equation? We haven’t even seen any of III’s murders or deaths, we are only taking it on faith based off what the OOA is saying that III was dangerous in the first place. Do you find it acceptable to sacrifice X in order to save a Y that you’ve only heard about in reports? Even if you trust the OOA, do you trust themselves so much that you find it acceptable to take a life to save lives you’ve never met, know, or heard about?
Once you’ve crossed the line, how deep are you willing to go? How many morals are you willing to pervert, lives are you willing to take, in Their name?
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August 4, 2016 at 12:24 pm #17477
Ah. I see, my mistake.
So is murder okay whenever you agree with it or is it only when the OOA approves of it?
All for the greater good, right? Personal beliefs, morals, right or wrong, sometimes gotta put that aside to act for The Glorious OOA, eh?
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August 4, 2016 at 11:37 am #17457
(Copy pasted from activity comment because I agree, this is a better conversational medium)
Call it what you will, but surely you can see that the normalization and celebration of murder, even if for what Mama GK2 or Papa OOA calls the greater good, is something that warrants at least some concern, no?
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