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  • #16934
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    We talk about there being no proof. I just don’t think that’s the case. Any of the following would be considered evidence to some extent and I think we have more than enough to make a decision. This is probably only a small part of it, I’m sure there’s stuff I’m missing here.

    1. March 10-11 – Videos posted & re-edited to change what Mike & Sean said – original videos did not have them supporting the OOA:
    https://www.facebook.com/TheTensionExperience/videos/vb.1691031654473886/1702876383289413/?type=2&theater
    https://www.facebook.com/TheTensionExperience/videos/vb.1691031654473886/1703309386579446/?type=2&theater

    2. May 11 – Newsletter with handwritten notes from Four indicating the murder of Bob Jones:
    https://www.facebook.com/TheTensionExperience/photos/a.1691032804473771.1073741826.1691031654473886/1728623900714661/?type=3&theater

    3. May 28-29 – Live events; several apostles were hijacked and “kidnapped” by BOS on their way to an OOA event, taken to a hotel where they met with a private detective & Addison’s parents who wanted her back. They heard their story. At the OOA mixer, Addison was brought out to be punished for unknown crimes, meeting was abruptly ended when her father arrived.

    4. June 2 – Periscope video showing Addison crossing out faces in photos of family members (?) and something suspicious happening with a knife & blood.

    5. June 4 – III claims “@masterlock is gone now” http://thetensionexperience.com/forums/topic/iii/

    6. June 11 – Answers from III to apostles’ questions dropped in Echo Park (coordinated possibly by both Aleister & III?) included what looked to be an old religious text describing the rage & probable violence coming from Anoch AND redacted text which Melissa was able to uncover for us. That text described distasteful cult-like practices of the OOA. I remember someone from the OOA telling us to disregard this text but I can’t find that post now; AG was pretty clear that us receiving this information was not by accident.

    6a. – A few of us have been told, after these dead drops, that we were followed (I was told this by AG that night after I got back to where I was staying in LA). I don’t know that we have proof that we actually were followed, I certainly don’t.

    7. June 13 – Several apostles meet with Warren in a bar, meetings set up by AG. Warren offers his view on the OOA and its practices. When Addison B. asks Aleister for answers after his meeting, he is told this is his first step towards enlightenment.
    http://www.makethismove.com/blog/2016/6/14/iii-has-awoken-is-this-still-a-game-a-personal-experience-with-tension

    8. June 22 – III confesses to “ending” Aleister.

    9. June 27 – Dead drop in Penn Valley Park reveals a leaked email which seems to reveal “corporate fraud and the questionable asset relocations of the dead,” to quote III. III claims that this was all the proof @mumumusings needed to bring the OOA down. This also refers back to the suspicious deaths of four elder OOA members in a fire & the collection of their life insurance money (I don’t have a specific link or date for this).

    10. June 29 – @thegilded accidentally receives a suspicious FB message from the AG account indicating something is being covered up

    "Missed" FB message 6/28

    11. July 5 – III confesses to killing Sam Bickerson.

    Truth

    12. July 7 – Periscope video showing Four & Addison preparing a pill.
    https://www.periscope.tv/the_tension_exp/1YqKDVqdEQoJV

    13. July 10 – Package containing pill is delivered to Lauren. Lauren is shown photos of III’s supposed victims.
    https://www.periscope.tv/the_tension_exp/1ynJOPDplnOxR

    14. July 13 – Kim meets with III & attempts to use the pill to kill him, but it’s a decoy – III is revealed to have become an ally of BOS and Kim has the original unused pill still.

    14. July 22 – Kim is asked to a meeting, where Addison murders Four. Later, Cody receives the video of the murder from Addison, who is wiping blood off her hands and face.
    https://www.periscope.tv/the_tension_exp/1vOxwpDVaRDKB

    You’re right, other than the murder of Four, we have no bodies and no tangible evidence of murders or other violent crimes. But all of these things could be entered into a trial as evidence of *something*.

  • #16950
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    Cody
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    Also, Aleister stated he was being held against his will.

  • #16951
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    That too, thanks Cody. I don’t have a record of when that was said or who said it which was why it escaped my notice.

  • #16953
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    Cody
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    I believe (if memory serves today) that it was stated to a few individuals via FB message. One of those whom recieved this being @mkarrett. Would you.be able to confirm or deny Melissa?

    • #16954
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      I don’t have any message from Aleister stating he was held against his will. He at one point I asked him if I did see him at the Donut Mixer and messaged back “you did not meet me, I am kept away from everyone”.

      That doesn’t exactly say he was being held against his will though. (granted it doesn’t sound great either)

    • #16955

      I spoke with Aleister often, my feeling from him was that he did not want to be there. He often had to hide messages, especially from III. I cannot recall if he explicitly said he was being kept against his will, but he certainly implied it

    • #16956
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      Addison Born
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      @sovereignskies I received facebook correspondence from Aleister that said @gatekeeper3 “suspected him greatly” and previous messages saying it was no longer safe for him to talk on facebook. But nothing explicit saying he was being held there, but it did seem that he wasn’t necessarily happy to be there?

  • #16960
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    I also got the “III suspects me greatly” stuff. I think it might not have come directly from Aleister himself that he was there against his will but maybe from someone else’s beliefs or speculation?

  • #16963
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    Cody
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    It very well may have been anothers speculation. I wasnt sure. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences with Aleister.
    I had asked him directly at the time if he was indeed being held against his will.
    I never did recieve a reply either way.

    • #16964

      @sovereignskies: Sentinel discussed Aleister’s situation with me. I trust what I was told.

      Excerpts of the relevant conversation from late May:

      Aleister’s intentions are good, but he is blackmailed into sitting this post.
      He was there when I [BOS member] was, acted a guide to those who strayed.
      Now, he is forced to do their disgusting bidding.
      OOA will blackmail ANYONE.
      Aleister is a puppet who OOA use as a front, he has no real power outside of making sure “it” operates.
      The Organizers come down hard on him if they fall off track.
      All Aleister can do is advise.
      BOS tried to get him out.
      Aleister had reasons to stay.
      OOA haven’t begun anything outside of toying with people.
      There is good within the OOA, just not those who run it.

    • #16966
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      Thank you Kim, that’s what I was referring to. Also I miss Aleister.

    • #17052
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      Cody
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      Thanks @electrichippo. I knew someone had mentioned something along those lines.

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